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The two children on the show are black and white. Well, when Sun has her baby, it's gonna be kinda in between. Maybe Sun's baby is going to be something like a "balance" between good and evil or something. Lost On Craphole Island 15:50, 15 June 2006 (PDT)

So far, each season has covered one month. I think it's reasonable to assume that will stay constant. The production crew have siad they're aiming for a 4-season arc, and if ABC make a 5th season, it won't have Abrams / Cuse / Carlton behind it. So it's fair to say that they won't get anywhere near Jin giving birth. --Wintermute 05:45, 21 July 2006 (PDT)
They might due it were between Season 3 and Season 4 a year or so passes.--CaptainInsano

Jin is gonna have a baby? What?--LOST ON CRAPHOLE ISLAND!!! My Article of the Week!!! 18:57, 3 September 2006 (PDT)

Sun was revealed to be pregnant in The Whole Truth. Colin 17:46, 29 April 2007 (PDT)
Oh! Haha. Just read it again, my mistake. Colin 17:50, 29 April 2007 (PDT)

Isn't this page getting carried away?

I'm sorry, but some of this is a definite stretch, people are listing stuff anytime they see anything black or white in Lost. Some of it is definite symbolism, like Locke's dream eyes or A&E's stones. But they should be juxtaposed with one another to really emphasize this theme, otherwise they have no more power than "brown and yellow" as a pair. Most of this page is silliness. --PandoraX 20:23, 30 December 2006 (PST)

After nearly 3 seasons of Lost one thing is for certain, almost nothing is an accident. The theme black and white have been made important just as the theme of the Numbers has been made important. Whether or not it's relevant is not up to this page to distinguish. The page simply exists because the colors black and white occur together quite frequently. Colin 17:48, 29 April 2007 (PDT)
Most of the stuff on this page really is pure nonsense. Any couplings of black and white people are borderline racist. And some of the things here are NORMAL to be black and white, like the figures in a chess game. Why did no-one point out the instances where a piano is shown yet? Pianos have black and white keys, DUH. Some stuff is obvious (Locke pointing out the sides in a Backgammon game, they stones found with Adam and Eve, Locke's eyes in Claire's dream, Sawyer's glasses), but most of the other stuff is either "normal" black/white couplings mistaken for a cue (as in, things you EXPECT to be black and white because it's the norm, anything else would be unusual), or just coincidences (like, ten people wearing shirts of different colors, and two of them happen to be black and white, DUH HIDDEN MEANING).--Nevermore 15:17, 17 February 2008 (PST)
I have to agree. The Season 4 section could use some cleanup. Referencing Jin buying a Panda Bear (Black & White?)... et, al. is a little ridiculous. --*creatingmore 09:06, 8 May 2008 (PDT)
I agree that some minor appearances of black and white are not meaningful, and that the suggestion that pairings of black and white people are symbolic is ridiculous. I argue, however, that black and white don't have to appear together in order to be meaningful. Just because Kate's horse doesn't appear next to something white doesn't mean that it's not symbolic! Ditto with the Black Rock, the smoke monster, and the white monster. It might even make sense to split this page into a "White" page and a "Black" page, because it seems obvious to me that white and black have meaning independent of one another. I've put some of my ideas about their meanings on the theories page.--Jonnylawless 13:25, 12 July 2008 (PDT)

Adam and Eve's Stones

In the book "The Alchemist" by Paul Coelho there are two stones given to the main character that aid him in making decisions - Black = Yes, White = No. The stones are called Urim and Thummim. Urim and Thummim were also the names given to the Seer stones used by the Hebrews and Israelites to interpret God's Will(they were also the "Seeing Stones" that Joseph Smith used to interpret the book of Mormon). Urim and Thummim can be translated as "lights and perfections" or "revelation and truth". CJDTrismegistus 20:27, 19 February 2007 (GMT)

Kate's Horse

How is Kate finding a black horse an instance of Black & White? Other than the fact that Kate's white. Colin 17:52, 29 April 2007 (PDT)