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Whispers
The whispers seem to use Shannon's name and say things that sound like they might come from Boone or be a conversation between Boone and someone else about Shannon's relationship with Sayid. For example, "Relax dude", "She likes the guy", about Shannon and Sayid, also "Dying sucks", "Hi sis" Abandoned.
It seems that possibly Boone is either alive or in some kind of afterlife along with other people, where he can observe, and perhaps speak (whisper) to the people on the island. The whispers seem to be involved in Shannon's shooting, so perhaps Boone engineered her death so they could be re-united. This would suggest that Shannon now also exists in another place and may be capable of communicating via whispers or otherwise influencing events on the island. The most obvious person for her to try to influence would, presumably, be Sayid. Perhaps she will draw Sayid to his death so he can join her too, or perhaps intervene in some other way. --HypnoSynthesis 16:15, 11 January 2007 (PST)
After Locke tests Boone and he finds Shannon's body in the river it is mutilated in a similar fashion to that of the pilot. He never saw the dead pilot as far as we know.
It almost certainly a visual thing, all for the viewers benefit... but interesting all the same.
Jack passed her and her step mother in the hospital after the accident.
VINCENT
Walt gifts Shannon his dog, when he goes on the raft, to look after her now her brother is gone.
I am wondering if thats an emotional bond that allows him to "contact" her, in a similar way he obviously has an emotional bond with his dad and allows him to contact him remotely.
Error with Shannon's dad/Sarah
I was re-watching a few Season 2 episodes tonight..
Man of Science... They bring Sarah in and the EMT says her car blew a tire and jumped the barrier and went head-on with a SUV. Jack says Mr. Rutherford (Shannon's name). The body also has dark hair (yes, there was blood, but the whole head).
Abandoned When Shannon and her step-mom are in the hospital, the doctor says your husband was in a head-on collison with a SUV. The body at the wake has blonde hair.
Both were driving SUVs, but it was supposed to be Sarah in car, dad in SUV.
Did Ana-Lucia really kill her?
I recently saw an article with pictures that questions whether Ana-Lucia actually killed her. The best evidence is that Ana-Lucia is right handed, and in scene where Shannon is in Sayid's arms, there is a close up of a left arm and hand, and it's not holding a gun. Perhaps a goof, but you never know. Watch the episode again and you'll see. I can't find the website, but if I do I will post it. --Eridani 13:20, 26 May
- I wish she'd survived, there was still mystery around her. I mean, she was supposedly married at some point - wonder if its to anyone we'd know? --Nickb123 (Talk) 06:33, 16 August 2006 (PDT)
- Maybe she is still alive. A theory: The monster, in the form of Walt, led her away from Sayid, only to be captured by whoever is responsible for "The Whispers", in the same manner as Cindy was captured just moments before Shannon's alleged shooting. The monster then appeared as a figure that Ana Lucia would be sure to shoot at (perhaps Jason McCormack, or one of the "others"). Upon being "shot" the monster then transfigured into Shannon in order to fake Shannon's death and create a rift between the midsection and tail section survivors. The fact that Shannon's body did not dematerialize into black smoke might suggest that the Monster, in whole or in part, can stay in its manifest form indefinitely (e.g. Hurley's friend Dave's slipper).
That theory is very funny. Surely Ana would have known she didn't shoot Shannon??? Why would she shoot Jason any more than Shannon? If I saw a dead person I wouldn't shoot I'd scream and run. Princess Dharma (banned)
- Why "surely"? Ana Lucia was under a lot of stress in that moment, with Cindy disappearing, and was primarily concerned with protecting the other tailies. I think she might reasonably have doubted herself after the fact... or her mind may have played tricks on her. Also, her vision would have been impaired by the distance between her and Shannon (or "Shannon"), the rain, cloud cover and undergrowth.
The other tailies would have seen as did we in the other 48 days. The theory is a load of crap face it. Princess Dharma (banned)
- Why are you so unfriendly? Do you talk to all new people on the boards like this?
Lies about her age?
- Okay, am I missing something? Shannon says she's 18 when she's drinking Scotch with Boone after her father dies. We know her father dies in the same accident (or at least at the same time) that Sarah Shepard has her accident. That was four years before the crash of Oceanic 815. However, on the island Shannon states she's 20 years old. At one of these points, she must be lying, right? If she was eighteen at the time of the accident, she must be 22. Or, if she is indeed 20, she was 16 at the time of the accident. Now, I can't be sure, but I think on both occasions that she states her age, she's speaking to Boone...why would she lie to her step-brother, he obviously knows her age. Or maybe he doesn't...
- It wasn't a lie...and it wasn't 4 years ago. It was 3 years ago. Desmond was in the hatch for 3 years. Desmond left to go on his trip shortly after his meeting with Jack and that was the same week that Sarah crashed into Adam Rutherford. Presumably Shannon had just recently 18 before Adam's death. She was presumably a few months shy of 21 when Hurley asked her age in season 1. She probably had her 21st birthday sometime in season 2 and it was never mentioned. User: ksofen666
- That's an interesting theory, but is there any official confirmation or support for it? I'm especially troubled by the idea that Shannon must have had some "unseen birthday"; that sounds very much like fan-speculation to me. It seems at least as likely that she either lied to Boone about her age so he'd let her drink, or lied to Hurley about her age when she was taking the census in "Raised by Another". It's not like either would be out-of-character for her. So, what official evidence is there for one possibility or another? If there's no conclusive evidence, it seems to me that we shouldn't state any of the proposed theories as fact. -Silence 05:56, 25 July 2007 (PDT)
Jae Lee
Ok - here's some facts about Shannon and Jae Lee that could connect them in a coherant fashion based on what we already know (not merely abstract speculation on that "anything can happen in Lost so I'll add it without thinking"): Shannon is known to travel a lot (so you can't say "there's no way they could have met" - if Shannon can travel to Australia, it makes sense that she could have been to the same place in America that Jae Lee was when he was with his American woman, plus they may have even met in Korea, since Shannon travelled), they are roughly near enough the same ages to have been boyfriend and girlfriend, it's getting more and more clear that the producers are linking together characters pasts (so it's logical to assume Jae Lee's American woman will be one of the American women already on the show - Shannon is one of them) - et voila. So I'm going to be keeping it in the article, until someone can trash those three facts as baseless speculation. --Andyroo316 05:28, 16 September 2006 (PDT)
- "so it's logical to assume Jae Lee's American woman will be one of the American women already on the show". Yeah because there aren't millions alive today. Shannon has apparently been conning Boone for a long time. Why didn't she just play Jae and get married without signing a pre-nup. If that is what happened why would she need to con Boone.--CaptainInsano 09:37, 16 September 2006 (PDT)
- Didn't Jae meet the american woman at Harvard? Shannon almost certainly did not go to Harvard. Also there is a comment in The Hunting Party where Sun implies that she has been married to Jin for 4 years (she says something about obeying him for 4 years...presumably she didn't have to do so before the marriage). Jae told Sun about the girl from Harvard before Sun met Jin so that was at least 4-5 years ago. Given that Shannon is 20-21 that would make her 15-17 when she married Jae...which would be before Adam's death who died when Shannon was 18. Jae's woman cannot be Shannon.
While it is not 100% certain that they never met before, there is no actual evidence that she is Jae Lee's American woman, your entire argument is circumstantial, therefore it is speculation. Read this excerpt from the episode transcript of ...And Found:
| “ |
JAE [subtitled]: I think you're great too, Sun. So... I'd really like for us to keep seeing each other. Our parents will be so thrilled. No more "matchmakers." No more pressure. We can be free. Can I tell you a secret? SUN [subtitled]: Of course. JAE [subtitled]: When I was at Harvard, I met an American woman... I haven't told my father yet, but... in six months, I'm going to move there and marry her. [Sun looks hurt/embarrassed] Wait... you didn't think -- | ” |
Shannon's father died when she was 18, so just out of high school, and after that she didn't even have money to go to New York, let alone study at Harvard. Until you can come up with actual evidence, the speculation shouldn't be in the article --NSHS07 17:31, 17 September 2006 (PDT)
Boone might have given her money? Rukyi 17:07, 18 September 2006 (PDT)
- Do you actually have evidence that she DIDN'T have the money to go to Harvard? Her whole family was rich and, sure she didn't get any of it from them, but it's clear she's swindled a lot of guys out of money later in her life, who says she wasn't able to do it to het own family before she moved out? It is a lot less speculation than some of the theories I've seen - such as Ethan being Sarah Shephard's "other man" because it's an anagram of his name (so?! it's just an anagram - an anagram of "Shan Rutherford" is "Andre for thrush" - so can I add in the theories that she'll meet a guy called Andre in one of her flashbacks because he's for thrush and loves her because she contracts it?). My main point was that Jae Lee's American Woman will almost definately be a female already in the show - that's enough ground as what we need at the moment - it's already more ground than about 50% of the theories on here. If you disagree with it, add a better, more compelling theory that people will agree with, or just add those counter-theories as a "**" thing instead of just removing it. Only remove it until it's actually shown as wrong when Jae Lee's American Woman is revealed. --Andyroo316 17:29, 19 September 2006 (PDT)
Apparently I don't have enough pull around here to persuade you to stop putting nonsense on here. Can a Sysop please resolve this issue --NSHS07 11:40, 19 September 2006 (PDT)
Season 3
(moved speculation from article to talk page -- Jabberwock talk contribs email - 12:36, 19 September 2006 (PDT))
Shannon may appear in Season 3 - most likely in flashbacks [1].
- Fine, I'm going to edit it again - to put it just into the theories section, since she isn't DEFINATELY in Season 3, but I'm putting it into the theories. That's one theory CaptainInsano won't dispute - her Season 2 filming would have ended at least 6 months ago by now, so I'm inferring from EVIDENCE that it's talking about Season 3, since British newspapers are normally up to date with info, rather than pretending that Season 2 really is all the world is up to on Lost - I know, I am British.--Andyroo316 16:32, 19 September 2006 (PDT)
- What is this "EVIDENCE"? The british article linked doesn't say she's in season three, or even that she has filmed anything past what we've already seen. If there's an article somewhere with information, link to it. --Minderbinder 08:10, 20 September 2006 (PDT)
- Please do not post speculation about cast appearances in character articles. This belongs on a discussion page until confirmed by an OFFICIAL source. Please see LP:TP for details on what is considered an official source. -- Jabberwock talk contribs email - 20:21, 19 September 2006 (PDT)
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- Shannon will appear in Season 3 - most likely in flashbacks [2].
- Maggie Grace has speculated that she may return from the dead. However it is more likely that she will appear in flashbacks.
- She may appear to a character in a dream, like Ana Lucia has done.
- She may appear in a flashback of Sawyer's - perhaps Brian worked with Sawyer to con her. Sawyer was in Australia at the time, had criminal contacts and has a history of how to con women that are divorced (as Shannon was).
- Her ex-husband may know a current character, and therefore appear in their flashback.
Shannon as the monster
In the episode "Hearts and Minds" Shannon appears in Boones vision, acting very strange. She keeps asking Boone about the hatch as if she wants to find out what he knows. It could have been the monster appearing in Shannon's shape.
- That was a illusion though.--CaptainInsano 12:11, 12 January 2007 (PST)
Rewrite
I'm currently working on the rewrite, let me know what you think when I'm done. --NSHS07 11:33, 20 September 2006 (PDT)
Proffesion
Captain Insano you are impossible. I refuse to continue this edit war. --Princess Dharma (banned) 10:57, 4 February 2007 (PST)
Why should I fight with you? It screws up the Recent Changes page. It's a trivial matter and if you want to act like a jerk about it fine. --Princess Dharma (banned) 11:01, 4 February 2007 (PST)
Flashbacks
Shannon's only flashbacks were in ("Exodus, Part 1") and ("Abandoned") as they were from her perspective. ("Hearts and Minds") was solely from Boone's POV. - Comedy240 18:09, 30 March 2007 (PST)
Husband?
When was it mentioned that Shannon had a husband? --Blueeagleislander 03:49, 14 April 2007 (PDT)
When Boone went to the police station to report Bryan, he mentioned she was married once, but isn't anymore--Phil 03:57, 14 April 2007 (PDT)
Hmm..interesting --Blueeagleislander 04:01, 14 April 2007 (PDT)
This is taken from the "Hearts and Minds" transcript:
[Boone turns to look at the commotion Sawyer is making. Then back to Malcolm.]
MALCOLM: Now, if that were her mate, see, then I could help you. Let's finish taking down the rest of your information. You were saying she's your sister, then why is her name Rutherford, and yours Carlyle? Is she married?
BOONE: She was married. She's not married anymore, and that has nothing to do with this. [Malcolm looks up at that statement, Boone looks flustered.] Rutherford is her father's name. Our parents got married when I was 10, she was 8.
MALCOLM: So she's your step-sister?
BOONE: That's right.
--Phil 04:14, 14 April 2007 (PDT)
Appearing in every season thus far
Like the character of Boone, Shannon has appeared in all three seasons despite being dead in the show's canon. Isn't this worth mentioning?--RichardAM 06:50, 29 April 2007 (PDT)
I wouldn't think so, Shannon died in season 2 and appeared in 1 flashback in Season 3. Its not that impressive--Phil (talk) 06:55, 29 April 2007 (PDT)
recent unanswered additions
i think they're obselete, check the history and you can see them. -- SauronsMatrix talk contribs email 11:13, 3 October 2007 (PDT)
Image
Can the main image be kept as Shannon blue.jpg? It's more aesthetically pleasing, and also, it's her character's most recent promo for Season 2! Also, it's i keeping with the eye contact to the camera. User:01lander 03:37 1 June 2008 (PDT)
- 01lander, please learn how to sign your comments. You can't use a signature template if you don't actually have one. Now then, why all this fuss about the infobox picture? 01lander has presented his arguments for using Image:Shannon blue.jpg; what are the arguments for using Image:ShannonS2a.jpg? A user posted to my talk page that Shannon blue is "too big"--they both look roughly the same size on my screen. Robert K S (talk) 07:56, 3 June 2008 (PDT)

