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Come on, we need a better synopsis than this! --SilvaStorm 04:52, 1 July 2006 (PDT)

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rewrite

Agreed. Added rewrite template. Even a short summary is good, but this is too short, and too general, with an odd choice of specific information (Joanna is not relevant to the Lost storyline).

Suggestion: Create two sections, Island and Flashback, and write a brief summary for each. With the new ABC wiki in full swing, we simply have to be better than this. -- C¯ _Santa_ ¯T01:42, 8 October 2006 (PDT)

I'm on it! Don't stop me! -- Ohmyn0 13:35, 22 October 2006 (PDT)

...and I just rewrote it to. Oh dear. Anyway, it's far from perfect, but I just wanted to bulk it out, so that people can make minor edits if they wish, rather than having to do the whole episode. Removed the 'urgent rewrite' tag. Pictures would be good, if anyone has some to insert. Falesaif 14:08, 22 October 2006 (PDT)

Good rewrite. Added a counter-theory about the hallucination, to keep its feet on the ground, so to speak. Falesaif 15:19, 22 October 2006 (PDT)

Jack's speech

Jack's speech at the end of the episode about being united contains the names of two future episode titles: Live Together, Die Alone and Every Man For Himself. I agree "every man for himself" is quite a common phrase, but the former isn't. I've hunted about to see if this information is written down elsewhere but didn't see any mention, but I'm sorry if it is. Just thought it was an interesting coincidence. Falesaif 13:13, 22 October 2006 (PDT)

I think they are reoccuring themes in the show.. but I will mention them in my re-write. -- Ohmyn0 13:35, 22 October 2006 (PDT)
Yeah, that's true - is there some sort of ordered list of this sort of thing? Falesaif 14:10, 22 October 2006 (PDT)
List of regularly spoken phrases, List of recurring themes -- Cheers 15:05, 22 October 2006 (PDT)

Production/Writing Error

I was watching "White Rabbit" today, and I came across a production/writing error with Charlie. When Charlie calls to Jack about the woman who is drowning, Charlie says he cannot go out because he doesn't know how to swim. However, he was able to swim quite well in "Greatest Hits", when he swam down to the Looking Glass. -- RBKeane, June 23, 2007

He say "I don't", not "I can't". This is different things, probably he is afraid of swimming. The Fuselage discussion --Znch 09:25, 7 July 2007 (PDT)

Don't Agree

I don't think this was an oversight. After Des started changing Charlie's future, a number of things changed. Kate's freckles also disappeared; after the time Sawyer walked in on her as she was changing and almost said "Freckles" (until he realized she was topless), he never calls her Freckles again, and all the close-up shots of Kate after that point look like she's wearing some kind of cover-up; her prominent freckles are gone.

This very well may be because when Des saved Charlie and changed the future, he was also changing the past and present. This is due to the nature of spacetime in physics, also called Minkowski space (which has been accepted for decades). Minkowski space is addressed in a few texts referenced directly or obliquely in Lost: A Wrinkle in Time, Slaughterhouse Five, and Watchmen. It's also the name of the man on the freighter at the end of season three.

Charlie as a swimmer

  • Charlie is not a good swimmer, and he was lying to Jack in Greatest Hits. Evidence: (1) Charlie was saved from drowning by Desmond, a better swimmer, when Claire caught an undertow. (2) Desmond asks if Charlie can really hold his breath for 4 minutes; Charlie confirms it was a lie by asking if the answer really matters (i.e., Charlie was supposed to die to save everyone) (3) Charlie states he is not a swimmer in this episode. All three points confirm that this is consistant, and therefore, I've removed becuase it's not a blooper or a UA. -- LOSTonthisdarnisland 18:54, 24 March 2008 (PDT)