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• Are these edits okay? BTW I had a fun photo trip today, I'll drop a URL later. -- ^C¯ _Santa_ ¯^T23:12, 4 December 2006 (PST)

Nav-theories

Hey, can you remove "The" from the link to "The Fall of DHARMA" theory under the realist category of the Template:Nav-Theories and then alphabetize said theory? I would myself, but it is rather protected. Thanks. --Scottkj 15:42, 9 December 2006 (PST)

• Oh yes, one more thing. The (protected) Fan Theories page still calls the old template. Might want to change that. Thanks again. --Scottkj 18:19, 9 December 2006 (PST)

Re: Transcript

Hi Pandora, yes I did write the Cost of Living transcript. I made a mistake by putting the description stuff in those seperate boxes (seen here), and was planning on changing it at some point, but you already did it! Thanks for that. I noticed Spooky hadn't already written a transcript for The Cost of Living, so I went ahead and wrote it ASAP. Good job on the I Do transcript, too! --SilvaStorm

Sure, you can give it to Lost-TV if you want. I wouldn't mind the credit, if that's possible (transcribing takes a long time!). About the page protection, I don't really mind if it is unlocked liked your I Do transcript. There's nothing wrong (to me, at least) with other people making my descriptions sound better! ;) Also, I might as well take this opportunity to tell you about a typo on the All the Best Cowboys Have Daddy Issues transcript - 5th line down, it says "Where well the hell is he?" instead of "Well where the hell is he?". Nice work on renaming the transcript pages, by the way! It looks much better without the unnecessary "S2E10 -" etc. --SilvaStorm

Thank you very much, Pandora! I'm honoured to receive this award. :) --SilvaStorm

Dedication

Hi, don't mean to pry, but while logging on and off today next to my stdyin, couldn't help but notice that you've been working here for like more than 7 hrs straight! ..No comments :)-- 22:22, 9 December 2006 (PST)

Hey! just checked the history from the link..pretty good! I'm having my exams as well to deliver by the 15th..Good luck with yours--

Ah, and do u need any help before I leave ?-- 22:35, 9 December 2006 (PST)

Nite, and c u after the exms -- 22:47, 9 December 2006 (PST)

Religions

Hi, regarding the edit I did on your addition yesterday, which probably would be of my few serious edits this week due to exams, your rewrite was valid to put it back in context, however, the eidt summery you've added for it sounded a little too harsh! specially that this was kindof your first comment on the rewrites done, even if in an unofficial way.. so, after days of workin on the page, though of course I haven't finished yet, it would be rather sad to find that you didn't really like what I did with it..so in case this is not just me, and you disapprove of other parts or in general of the way I handled it, and by that I mean as a regular editor who contributed to the page before me, please let me know...-- 08:40, 10 December 2006 (PST)

Not at all, it is not a personal thing to me, and I hope you don't think so. It's rather a contribution and a time invested, which I wanna make sure that it goes into place, and is not being wasted. Another thing, regarding the Antagonism section, the reason why I moved it down is not because it doesn't represent a prominent part of religion, but because the theme I was trying to use is faith and spirituality, which was more inspiring to me after the last podcast (both C & D referred to their references to religion as a reflection on how spirituality is an imp. part of human experience). Thus, in my depiction, I've attempted to divide the page into tendencies towards faith, and diversions from it, which I aimed to later complete by expanding the antagonism part much more, and also adding a general section about faith in the beginning of the page. To be honest, I also knew that at one point I'll post a suggestion for renaming the page to Faith and Spirituality, which I think should be a main theme to obsolete religions, and given this theme, I felt that the talk should start with pro-faith aspects first, which is more prominent in the show, then tendencies against it..what do you think ?-- 08:57, 10 December 2006 (PST)

Sorry, but I do not agree with you on that. One's belief/disbelief in God need not be addressed by adding the Atheism section first, specially if it was expanded later, but rather a good introduction at the top of the page would do, by speaking of both directions. Then you can choose the links to go to whatever section you want. Adding the atheism first to a religion-named page, is a bit like adding the cons section 1st before the pros about a topic..anyway, I think I will not futz with it any further, mainly cause of the exams, and maybe later this will change. Regards-- 09:26, 10 December 2006 (PST)

I actually know that about the section, specially by close reading of it while working on the page :) When I referred to its relation to God, I actually referred to your understanding that you added to me in your last message, stressing the point that the section has to be added 1st: "One has to decide if one believes in God at all before you tackle the questions". In spite of our interpretations of Atheism, still I find that we do not need to add the section 1st, but a simple introduction about religion and faith, including questioning the existence of a higher entity or a power engineering the events, would simply do, and the section would just as visible if it was added any where later. I think this discussion can go for long, with no outcome, so I ask you if we can halt our discussion at this point, and maybe if the issue would be ever revisited, it can be through a regular wiki vote on the talk page, allowing everyone to take a poll. Thanks-- 09:51, 10 December 2006 (PST)

Re: Templates

On all the other templates, subjects are in lower case, unless it's a name or title, and so I thought the same would apply to the Nav-Storyline template. Previous admins have said that looking professional is not a good excuse, which I found out the hard way...so I don't really know. --SilvaStorm

You Big Geek :-)

I was just looking on the user edit templates list and what links to them - I saw you were linking to the 3000 one and couldn't believe that, so checked your contributions. Turns out you're actually nearing 9000, meaning you have officially done the most edits out of everyone on the site. If that doesn't bump up your geek status, I dunno what will :-D --Nickb123 (Talk) 10:59, 11 December 2006 (PST)

I just checked your contribs and counted the number of 500 pages - just me being nosey as usual. --Nickb123 (Talk) 12:18, 11 December 2006 (PST)

Kickin' around a thought

Hi! There's been a little discussion that I'd like your thoughts on. Basically, when the cite.php was about to be installed, Jackdavinci suggested putting anchors within the transcripts to aid in specific citing. I think it's a fantastic idea, but it's buried on a somewhat obscure talk page. I made a mock up prototype, but I think there should really be a group consensus on how we'd like to break them up. DVD chapters, Acts and Scenes, or actual line numbers. I think it's a great idea that we should explore as a group. So, do you have any thoughts on the actual idea; and do you know an appropriate spot to put the discussion in a more public place? Thanks! -BearDog 11:20, 20 December 2006 (PST)

Thanks for getting back to me, I wanted to check before restarting that somewhere else. I hadn't really considered a holiday lull. I totally agree with you, about not mucking with them willy-nilly-style; I'm absolutely grateful to anyone willing to undertake such a massive task. It never sounds so hard, until you try to catch every "er" and "um", and by the time you get through the previously on's it gets downright tedious! On a side note, those last three (S3Eps4-6)aren't page protected. I don't know if that's a big deal or not, I just happened to notice the other day. Happy Christmakwaanzukkuh! -BearDog 14:04, 20 December 2006 (PST)

Lists, portals, ...

Hi! About your question (on the episode list discussion page), I'll give a try at an explanation. I'm replying directly here, because it might get a bit lenghty and might be somewhat off-topic for the rename discussion over there.

IMHO, "list" describes the organizational type of an article that lists items of some kind, while "portal" is more a function that a page is supposed to play as an entry or focal point about a broad theme or topic.

For a list, one defines the type of items that are its object, what is (are) the common trait(s) or common criteria for including items in the list. Those criteria should be sufficiently clear either in the page name, in an introduction, or in the discussion page. The topic of the list can be anything that is considered to be at least of some interest by at least some users, and the criteria for inclusion or exclusion of items in it can be as restrictive or as broad as desired, but inside these defined criteria two of the essential qualities of a list are its exhaustivity and its specificity. Ideally, the list lists all the known items that meet that definition, while it excludes all items that don't. (In other terms, no omissions and no false positives.) For each item listed, a list may identify the item with one word, or the entries may be more developed and detail each item. Examples of all sorts of lists abound on Lostpedia.

A portal need not be a list at all. It can be though of as an introductory page, an optional starting point, an organized navigational basis, about a relatively broad and popular theme. Ideally, the portal is organized in a thematically significant manner, and if possible in a visually interesting presentation, to group links to articles related to its topic, introduce the user to sub-topics, optionally present very basic information, etc. In this regard, portals could probably more easily be compared to broad-focused root pages than to lists. For examples of classic portals, one can look at thematic portals such as the maritime portal or the different country portals on Wikipedia. We don't have many classic portals on Lostpedia (examples could be the main page itself and the community portal).

What may be confusing is the fact that a particular page can sometimes be both a list and a portal. It is not mutually exclusive. For example, a page that is basically a good list, especially if its topic is broad and obvious, can sometimes also be declared to be a portal and be used as such. Our portal themes on Lostpedia often tend to be easily treated in the form of lists. Thus, we tend to use some of our lists as some sort of raw portals, and we tend to organize our portals in the form of lists or in the form of incomplete lists. But even when some particular portal may be made in the form of a list, there may be reasons (for example, a better visual appearance) why that portal may be an incomplete list and not necessarily include all the items that should appear on a complete, exhaustive list. Which brings us to your question of when we have a portal on a particular topic, is there still a need for a list (or even for several lists) on the same topic? In many (probably most) cases, the answer is probably that yes, we still need the list. Of course, a duplicate list is not needed if the portal page for this topic does include the exhaustive list about that topic. But if the portal includes only an incomplete list of the items that would normally be on an exhaustive list, then that distinct exhaustive list is relevant to preserve the complete information. - Cheers 15:46, 21 December 2006 (PST)

Flashback Templates

• Hey Pandora, what's crackin'? I'd like to ask your opinion on something. If there is more than one flashback template on a page (e.g. Christian Shephard), do we leave only one one, most likely the one that they are most prominent on? Thanks much, Marik7772003 18:30, 22 December 2006 (PST)

Crew Members

Hey, how's it going? Just a small question: some of the crew articles have "image needed" tags, and some don't... do we want images for all the crew members, or should we leave them? --   Lost Soul   talk  contribs  05:58, 23 December 2006 (PST)

• I do, yes. What do you need and where are they located, and I suppose I can give them a shot. Nothing better to do... other than trying to make the image categories to appear in the character infoboxes. I want their to be the link at the bottom. But I can't do it... I'm still trying. :-) And call me MK ;) --   Lost Soul   talk  contribs  06:12, 23 December 2006 (PST)

• Ok great I'll get to those eventually. Is there anything else that needs doing on the Wiki? :D I like to help lol :) --   Lost Soul   talk  contribs  06:36, 23 December 2006 (PST)

• OK so it's on the S1 DVDs and I'm giving it a go now. Those second set of requests you sent, were they from the same featurette? --   Lost Soul   talk  contribs  06:55, 23 December 2006 (PST)

• OK, I did all the crew ones and added them to the respective pages. Where do you want the pics below to go? Here are the others:

Crash FX	The Rain scene	The puppet of polar bear	Kevin Blank in bear chaps
The freeze frame of the bear being launched	The CG image of the polar bear	How the turbine man was sucked into the engine	JJ's infamous bad-weather shorts

Hope they're OK. --   Lost Soul   talk  contribs  07:59, 23 December 2006 (PST)

• Glad they're all good :-) I may go and do that, I'm currently experimenting with a new form of table for the Station Explorers article. :-) Just seeing how it could turn out in my sandbox. Happy Christmas! --   Lost Soul   talk  contribs  08:06, 23 December 2006 (PST)

• Ok, so at the Station explorers article, I changed the table at the bottom, which chronicles who knows about what stations. Would you mind taking a look to see if it's OK for me? Thanks. Also, here are your caps:

Jeff Pinkner

The outline

Hope they're alright for you. --   Lost Soul   talk  contribs  11:53, 23 December 2006 (PST)

• All I added was Desmond. Speaking of which, there's a comment in the talk page about that, saying that we should mention about the Arrow and the Staff and other stations. Someone said he would know they were there. *shrugs* I made my stance clear in that discussion. Lol. But yeah... thanks a lot for your input. --   Lost Soul   talk  contribs  12:05, 23 December 2006 (PST)

holidays

• Thanks, I dropped you a email instead of posting here! x0x0

-- ^C¯ _Santa_ ¯^T 14:31, 25 December 2006 (PST)

Happy holidays to both you guys! And my god Pan I think you've hit a record for amount of edits in a single day --Nickb123 (Talk) 15:08, 25 December 2006 (PST)

Ahh I see, and I'm no better - I got the Lost soundtracks for Christmas, saw a high quality blast door map image and rushed to the computer the first chance I got. We're all obsessive geeks here... speak to ya soon, enjoy the rest of the time off --Nickb123 (Talk) 15:29, 25 December 2006 (PST)

Something Wrong With the Theories

• Hi, I noticed a problem. :-) It's nothing major, but, basically, when you go to a theory page, the theory tab is a bit mucked up. There's something wrong with the category (i.e. the wrong one) which makes a red link. Could you take a look? Thanks, --   Lost Soul   talk  contribs  04:02, 26 December 2006 (PST)
  • I think I have fixed the problem --Nickb123 (Talk) 04:44, 26 December 2006 (PST)

• Ok thanks! Happy Holidays! --   Lost Soul   talk  contribs  04:47, 26 December 2006 (PST)

Background vs. Redshirt

Hey again. The confusion is between "extra" and "redshirt". These are two different things (and this confusion is also present at lost-tv forums as well due to the mod's chosen definition; the mod knows the difference I think, but has chosen to equate "redshirt" with "extra cast").

"Redshirt" is a fan term for characters, specifically minor characters who often are introduced in an episode or scene, only to be scripted to die, as on Star Trek. However an "extra" or "background" is a term for actors, specifically "background" is strictly a non-speaking acting role, the pay scale is different, AND you don't get credited.

To actors, "background roles" are not considered actual acting roles, and would never appear on an acting CV. If you are filmed with a line (or lines), by definition you are not an extra-- we at Lostpedia grant such roles "guest star" status; I believe there are actually different levels of having lines (e.g., "featuring", "guest starring", "with a special appearance by...", etc.), but Lostpedia simply draws a contrast between "guest star" and "background extra". In the very very rare case (for Lost) that a true background actor is given a line (e.g. scott/steve), then they have been upgraded that day (in pay scale and acting status) to a credited guest actor.

Examples: Daniel Roebuck the actor is a guest star. His character, Arzt, was a part in the script that was auditioned, and given to an experienced actor from LA (Roebuck). He never before previously appeared on the beach (although that was the premise of the storyline). In stark contrast, the beach background extras for Lost are, as a rule, inexperienced actors and many are even are non-actors. Similarly Kiele and Rodrigo are regular cast members, and have never appeared in the background pool, but the storyline asserts they were there all along. The notion that someone like Rodrigo would've been sitting in the local Hawaii background actor pool is, of course, ridiculous. However the fan-notion is different, in the sense that the term "redshirt" is often applied indiscriminately to all Flight 815 survivors who are not part of someone's definition of the "main characters".

Thus some redshirts are background actors, and some redshirts are guest actors. To some fans, Bernard and Rose are "redshirts". To some fans, Eko, Ana-lucia, Cindy, Libby, etc. are redshirts (and have in red-shirt fashioned, have been mostly killed off). To some fans, Arzt the character is a classic redshirt, because he was introduced solely to accompany an "away mission", and was promptly killed. HOWEVER, as far as categorizing actor types (not character types), Daniel Roebuck the actor is unambiguously and totally a guest actor-- in no way is he an "extra" (background).

More examples:

1. Speaking does not always guarantee credited guest status: For example, general chatter (such as we heard in Live Together, Die Alone just before Jack tells everyone to calm down) does not qualify for speaking-part status, nor does a volunteered line that the director did not request.
2. Filming a speaking part is sufficient for credit, even if the scene is later cut: Thus Philippe and Ticket Agent are characters that had lines that were cut, but their actors are still fully considered guest stars with lines.

Questions: I'm still unsure how to classify stunt actors/coordinators and stand-ins. Note that IMDb sometimes does list standins and backgrounds such as Michael Gilday, but I'm not sure these are official ABC credits, rather than idiosyncratic user contributions to IMDb. Currently I've assigned stunt actors and stunt coordinators into the same category, and if they have also had guest actor or background roles, I've appended these cats as additions. Stand-in actors are currently not specified in Lostpedia, probably because no sources on the internet (AFAIK) lists stand-ins for Lost.

More issues: 1) In the LP redshirt article, Damon mentions "meat socks", but like "redshirts", this applies to the character, not the actor. 2) I remember reading somewhere that initially there were not mean to be many redshirt/background survivors in the storyline and its filming, but that someone convinced ABC otherwise-- I'd love to find and add that reference to the redshirt and background article.

Hope this begins to clarify how I've been thinking about the actor categories, and would love to help with any further adjustments that you may find necessary. -- ^C¯ _Santa_ ¯^T 18:31, 26 December 2006 (PST)

Vandal

Great that you caught him! I was worried to even leave a msg by a sysp, since he might go and trash his talk-- 04:07, 27 December 2006 (PST)

yeah. thx 4 blocking :) Cool Man 0912 04:08, 27 December 2006 (PST)

• Hey, don't ever be afraid to leave a msg on one of our pages. As a wiki these can always be reverted with a single click (for us, we just hit rollback, and it all reverts... it's more clicks and trouble for these losers to vandalize than us to correct). --PandoraX 04:22, 27 December 2006 (PST)

• Great :) I think now that leaving a msg at a sysop's is still a good method, since even if the vandal deletes the page temporarily, you'd still be notified by an email from me updating your page, right ? (that's of course if you enable this setting)

-- 04:30, 27 December 2006 (PST)

• Yep, and to be honest, reverting vandalism is kinda fun! (never thought I'll say that). Happy Holidays :)-- 04:38, 27 December 2006 (PST)

Flaskback

Sorry, the reason I edited it back is because I didn't realize someone had changed it. I thought I had made a mistake, and after reading the script, I see you were right.

Navigation Templates

• Hey, just wondering what the deal was with navigation templates for flashback characters (e.g. Nav-JinSunFlash). See, I’ve seen some characters with more than one nav template on their page and I think it looks a bit strange. Is there a definitive rule about this anywhere, because I remember it being mentioned sometime before. Thanks for your time, --   Lost Soul   talk  contribs  02:08, 28 December 2006 (PST)

• Ok, fair enough. Sounds good to me :-) Thanks again, --   Lost Soul   talk  contribs  02:20, 28 December 2006 (PST)

Thoughts

Hey Pan, was wondering if you get chance at all today, could you check out my new theory and give some criticisms for it. Its pretty hard to add pros and cons to your own theory hehe! Thanks very much in advance, --Nickb123 (Talk) 05:46, 28 December 2006 (PST)

Thanks for letting me know about that Pan. I'm now focusing more on the cargo door theory, and have added a case study to the article about a passenger plane in 1989 which lost its front door in mid-flight, comparing the amount of damage it experienced to what we see happens in the Season 3 opener. --Nickb123 (Talk) 06:12, 28 December 2006 (PST)

Episode titles in transcripts

Hey Pandora, what do you think about using the episode template (e.g. {{ep|2x04}}) and putting them on all of the transcripts. Just wanted to get your opinion before I do anything. Regards, --Marik7772003 16:19, 29 December 2006 (PST)

• Thanks Pandora, and happy holidays as well. --Marik7772003 16:45, 29 December 2006 (PST)

Whitespace in template

It wasn't obvious, but I think I banished the extra newline by moving the 'noinclude's up one line. Let me know if it also looks fixed for you, and happy new year!--Dagg 14:58, 30 December 2006 (PST)

Hilton Tool & Machine Co.

Thanks for trying to fix this page. It never has been quite right as it seems to conflict weirdly with the Hilton Tool redirect page. Perhaps if you could delete both pages, and I'll start again (I have a copy of the original text on my comp) --Kivipat16:52, 30 December 2006 (PST)

• Thanks again...I've put up the text but its up to its old tricks (redirecting through HILTON TOOL (even b4 I put the redirect on), and not allowing discussion or theories???). If you could have those other bods look at it sometime that would be cool...only 8 hours to New Years here :-) --Kivipat

Hard Work Medal

• Thank you very much for giving me this honour, I'm very proud. :-) --   Lost Soul   talk  contribs  03:11, 31 December 2006 (PST)

sockpuppets

• I think I searched once and our policy is more "institutional" rather than in some explicit "statute" in a policy article. In other words, I believe I've seen both Plkrtn and Jabr banning for sockpuppetry (mulitple account on same IP). I'd back you up in banning both accounts, and if there is some disagreement, we can always change it later if we learn more. For now, I agree with your detective efforts. -- ^C¯ _Santa_ ¯^T 19:32, 31 December 2006 (PST)

"The Others" portal

Hello. Yesterday you removed Jason and Matthew from the Portal:The Others, claiming they don't have lines. Well, Matthew actually speaks in Every Man for Himself and Jason also speaks in Every Man for Himself and I Do. Their number of lines is similar to Adam and Amelia's number of lines, which are still in the portal. I think Jason and Matthew should be re-entered. Thanks, Obi-Dan Kenobi 03:50, 2 January 2007 (PST)

Well, now I agree with you. Another question I had in mind - shouldn't Paulo and Nikki appear in the Portal:Main Characters? Their faces appear in the new Season 3 poster, so I thought it might indicate they are now main characters, and not supporting. Thanks, Obi-Dan Kenobi 04:37, 2 January 2007 (PST)

Hardwork Medal

• I'm not sure if I'm allowed to do this, but I'd like to request that Dagg gets a hardwork medal, much for the same reasons that I got one. He was the one started the whole 'ep' thing, and I think his contribution has been immense. He deserves it more than I do. :-) Just giving my two cents. --   Lost Soul   talk  contribs  06:04, 2 January 2007 (PST)

Yeah

• I have had my eye on that one.--CaptainInsano 08:43, 2 January 2007 (PST)

deletion

Hi, I just noticed that you deleted the talk page, and not the page itself, which I think should be the opposite, if I'm not mistaken...
-- 16:13, 2 January 2007 (PST)

Regularly spoken phrases

Pandora, how come you seem to delete all my phrases I add to Regularly spoken phrases? At first it was "Is there something you want?" and now "I'll kill you". Is there a reason why these two commonly spoken phrases can't be included? Cheers. --SilvaStorm

Ah, good point. Thanks for clearing that up. ...4 more seasons after season 3?! Sheesh...I thought it would finish at season 5. --SilvaStorm

Mission infobox

Yeah, your right. It looks out of place to have alot of infoboxes on one page. I'll start to create an appropriate table, as you suggested. thanks,  Dan  talk  contribs  email 

So, do u think that I should just change the info box template page to make it look more like a table?  Dan  talk  contribs  email 

Sandbox

Hi, just wanna say I think it looks awesome, and that we should go with that. Maybe we could have a variety of different colours? Like a blue one for success and a yellow/red/other colour for those that fail? --   Lost Soul   talk  contribs  07:07, 3 January 2007 (PST)

• Yah, that's true. I suppose we'll wait and see what happens. :-) --   Lost Soul   talk  contribs  07:12, 3 January 2007 (PST)

Capitalization, etc

Hi PandoraX. I noticed you reverted a few of my changes on fate and free will:

1. Re-added the "Return to" at the top
2. Capitalized the level 2 headers

I've been doing the opposite on all the pages I've touched recently. Here is my reasoning for these changes. We can move this discussion to Talk:MoS if you want, but I thought I'd get your input first.--Dagg 11:16, 3 January 2007 (PST)

Using "Return to"

• The word "return" assumes that I originally came from another page. I didn't want to make that assumption, so I deleted it. Maybe other wording, and/or a very small template could be used instead? --Dagg 11:16, 3 January 2007 (PST)
  • That makes sense. I'll probably leave them as is unless and until I make a mass-edit to all those pages for a different reason.--Dagg 15:34, 4 January 2007 (PST)

Header capitalization

• I didn't see this topic addressed in our MoS, so I tried following the convention used on most of Lostpedia. After looking around, I still wasn't sure which capitalization to use, so I read Wikipedia's MoS, and found Section headings. Their rule seemed reasonable, so I started using it consistently on pages I edited. --Dagg 11:16, 3 January 2007 (PST)
  • I think this lower-cased header thing is something special for wikis. The first level headers (same as the title) are lowercased, so I think the idea is to lowercase the other headers as well. It took a while for me to get used to, but now I like it. The table of contents are also a little easier to read when they are lowercased, and it also makes it a little easier (in theory) to upgrade a section of a document to a full-blown article (e.g., == Cool people ==\nSee main article: [[Cool people]]). I'll probably start a discussion on [[MoS]] for this.--~~~~ == RE:Disambig Listing == *Ya, for the last couple weeks I have been going through that list ([[:Category:Disambiguation]]) and going to each disambiguation page, and fixing all the internal links to it. Surprisingly a lot of disambiguation pages have been created and the creator hasn't bothered fixing links to that page, such as [[Black rock]] which had at least 50 links to it (still working on the last few), that should have been directed to the [[Black Rock (ship)]]. So, I have almost finished all the disambiguation pages and decided that since someone had already created the alphabetical disambig listings I would quickly go though them and update the pages because as long as we have them they should be updated. Thanks for the compliment. --{{User:Mr.Leaf/sig}} 09:27, 4 January 2007 (PST) ==Missions Templates== Hey, just wondering if (when you get a chance you could take a look at my templates: [[User:Lost_Soul/Sandbox|the one for successful missions]] and [[User:Lost_Soul/Sandbox2|the one for unsuccessful missions]]. Thanks a lot and sorry for bugging you again. -- {{User:Lost_Soul/sig}} 10:51, 4 January 2007 (PST) == Re: BC == Ok no problem :) sorry i should have done that really, so will do all i can with the BC very soon (got to have dinner first), il try and get some information on them as well. :) --[[User:Lewisg|lewisg]] 10:58, 4 January 2007 (PST) :lol ok no prob == Category for Sky one specials == I think it should be categoried under United kingdom: <nowiki>[[Category:British]]

 Dan  talk  contribs  email 

Templates

Hey Pandora. I was just wondering - do you think it would be a good idea to use the A-Missions template (with some brief changes) for the seasons' pages? (Season 1 etc.). Thanks, Obi-Dan Kenobi 13:04, 4 January 2007 (PST)

Easy way to revert vandilsim?

Is there an easy way to revert vandilsm. I recently reverted edits by Bob by going to an older version, clicking on edit, copying everything there, going to the current revision, and pasting it. Is there a faster way to do this? --Mr. Crabby 14:43, 4 January 2007 (PST)

Okay, thanks dude! --Mr. Crabby 14:48, 4 January 2007 (PST)

I think its all reverted now, good when there's multiple SysOps around ;-) (though in fairness you got most of it) --Nickb123 (Talk) 14:50, 4 January 2007 (PST)

• Thanks for the link and thanks for banning him Pandora--Mr.Leaf 14:51, 4 January 2007 (PST)

Many thanks!

Thanks so much for the support, encouragement, and assurance. It means a lot! I was always afraid to start editing wiki pages because i thought, "Wow... the people who've edited these pages have done such a good job. WHAT IF I SCREW IT UP AND THEY HATE ME?!" After all, destroying someon else's work is pretty lame. But thanks for the words of encouragement... and the delete of the file. : )

Regards! --Innocencewithonus 14:14, 5 January 2007 (PST)

A-Missions

• Hey Pan, do you think that we should put up a straw poll for a decision on the A-Mission temp? It's Friday, so we need a decision quick so we can (if it's accepted), reorganize the page for the AA winner on Monday. Regards, Marik7772003 14:57, 5 January 2007 (PST)

Season Templates

Hey Pandora. I wrote to you yesterday about using the A-Missions Template with some changes for the seasons’ pages. You didn't answer, so I made three examples for you to see and decide - my sandbox. Thanks, Obi-Dan Kenobi 15:08, 5 January 2007 (PST)

Hello again, I just saw your answer. I didn't notice it before because you responded on my contributions talk page, and not on my user talk page. About the templates - do you think we should or shouldn't use them? I thought it will look better, because the episodes section of the season pages look just like the A-Missions page before the AA, so I thought they might deserve some kind of change as well. Obi-Dan Kenobi 08:22, 6 January 2007 (PST)

Move of mission temps

I'll start moving the info now, just thouhgt that i'd better let you know.  Dan  talk  contribs  email 

Spoilerfix page

I understand why you don't want a spoilerfix article, but if you think it'll benefit LostPedia, I'll make an imdb and tv.com article to make it fair. Tell me in my talk if you want me to do that. Thanks. :) --Mr. Crabby 18:30, 5 January 2007 (PST)

Whatever you say --Mr. Crabby 18:35, 5 January 2007 (PST)

RE:Screencaps

OK I'll get to it asap. Also, do you reckon you could take a look at my first sandbox and my second sandbox as I changed the colours for the A-Mission templates, as you said they were too gaudy? Thanks, --   Lost Soul   talk  contribs  09:46, 6 January 2007 (PST)

• UPDATE: the image is to the right. :-). I could only get a cap of the FATE upside down, so I had to flip it over in Photoshop. Hope it's OK. :-). --   Lost Soul   talk  contribs  09:59, 6 January 2007 (PST)

• No problem... what about the sandboxes? What are your thoughts? --   Lost Soul   talk  contribs  10:04, 6 January 2007 (PST)

• I know, but I made new ones today.... with less bright colours.... which might be better? --   Lost Soul   talk  contribs  10:10, 6 January 2007 (PST)

• I hope they are OK, if not... I can change them... --   Lost Soul   talk  contribs  10:54, 6 January 2007 (PST)

• If we're going with green for success and red for fail, then that's the best we can do. Red is always too gaudy, there are no light reds which are suitable... --   Lost Soul   talk  contribs  10:57, 6 January 2007 (PST)

• Alright well I'll see what everyone else says. :D Thanks for your time (again!) --   Lost Soul   talk  contribs  11:01, 6 January 2007 (PST)

Possible Vandal

• He User:Mr goff has recently made a couple of small changed to the William Mapother article, changing words like "Scientology" to "stupidity' and changing some points to unnecessary false statements. Although they are minor, I though I would let you know. Possibly a warning as his changes to the page are completely uncalled for.--Mr.Leaf 10:21, 6 January 2007 (PST)

Walt

• Yes... but the whole mission was started and planned by Michael, who was meaning to that. And well Michael's plan went without a hitch.--CaptainInsano 14:53, 6 January 2007 (PST)

Titles and Such

Yeah, okay. Didn't know there was an official rule of thumb when it came to titles and subheaders. I'll fix that or you can if you want --Cormacalian 15:19, 6 January 2007 (PST)

RE: Templates

• Im glad you like them. And the storyline thing was Santa's idea. I think it's quite a good one, though you do have a point. *shrugs* I suppose we may as well keep it for now, and if someone comes in and writes loads of them, we'll have a clear AAA winner... it's gonna be tough to choose this week. :-) --   Lost Soul   talk  contribs  05:06, 7 January 2007 (PST)

Book template

Sure, I'm going to look at this now.--Dagg 09:08, 7 January 2007 (PST)

• Awesome, glad it is working. Nice idea to change that page, it looks good. BTW, I added a topic about the TOC not working with this template over here. I applied the same hack on this page; you had the right idea.--Dagg 10:11, 7 January 2007 (PST)

Vandal

• User:Breezly, look at recent changes.--CaptainInsano 09:37, 7 January 2007 (PST)

• Nope.--CaptainInsano 09:43, 7 January 2007 (PST)

Other Templates

• Heys, loved what you did with the books page, looks awesome. Just wondering if you reckoned we could do something similar for the Movie/TV References page? --   Lost Soul   talk  contribs  10:51, 7 January 2007 (PST)

• • I don't get what you mean? --   Lost Soul   talk  contribs  10:59, 7 January 2007 (PST)

Mockingbird

Great to see an article on my favourite book :-) but could we reword a little bit from the intro. I'm being exceedingly nitpicky, but Scout never befriended Boo really, cause they never met til the end of the book. Though then again, he left her and Jem gifts in the tree, but I dunno if you can say that she befriended him etc. Sorry, I'm being a geek. EDIT: Also, could ya lemme know who actually came up with the new A-Missions design, I'm finding it hard to find the winner for AA on the history --Nickb123 (Talk) 11:28, 7 January 2007 (PST)

a missions

Hey Cee, yes it was me. Sorry I've been mostly offline. There's something about the article that has been bugging me, and I've almost got my finger on it but haven't had a chance to really think it through all the way. I agree about the bloat, but IMO the article is still missing the fun part which is seeing the missions as the skeleton behind the Lost storyline. Let me think about it, will try to take another look soon. In the mean time, feel free to revert. -- ^C¯ _Santa_ ¯^T 19:00, 7 January 2007 (PST)

Re:Vandal

Actually the same vandal trying to "trick us". Pretty pathetic really, they could at least try to adopt a different IP for the different account --Nickb123 (Talk) 10:06, 11 January 2007 (PST)

AmEx Lost and Found

• Hey Pandora, just what do you think about restarting the American Express Lost and Found page and then nominate it for the AA? I had nominated it on the AA page, and was hoping that this particular page would get to be a choice for Article Attack. Love to hear your thoughts on the issue. Regards, Marik7772003 20:22, 11 January 2007 (PST)

Sectionbox S1 Episode

• Hi there, could you rename Template:Sectionbox S1 Episode to Template:Sectionbox Episode for me, please? Thanks, --   Lost Soul   talk  contribs  12:48, 13 January 2007 (PST)

Bob

Hey something that has been bugging me. That guy Bob.. can't the admin block his IP number from using the site? --lewisg 14:27, 13 January 2007 (PST)

Sectionboxes

Hi there, I want to improves the Songs featured on Lost article, but don't know how to create sectionboxes. I'm a relativly new user and if you could point me in the right direction that would be great. Thanks --Mr. Crabby 10:39, 14 January 2007 (PST)

Happy new year

Just saying hi again since I haven't heard from you in a while (not suggesting you put up the template)...
Take care... -- ^C¯ _Santa_ ¯^T 01:01, 15 January 2007 (PST)

Season 3

Hey Pandora. I've asked Santa before but I saw you're on, and I have one small request - could you unlock Season 3 page for a couple of minutes so I could change the images in the section boxes? Obi-Dan Kenobi 18:30, 17 January 2007 (PST)

Quotes in Articles

Hi there, just would like to cnvass your opinions on this and this, which are two examples of how we could include quotes in articles. I'm interested to know what you think about this. Thanks, --   Lost Soul   talk  contribs  10:28, 18 January 2007 (PST)

• OK, thank you, and I respect your opinion. Personally, I like the dotted line, but that's just me.. maybe we could ask Dagg; he seems to be our guru :) And don't worry, it will be used in moderation; it would defeat the purpose to have like 10 on a page. I'll probably put 3 or 4 on, or less. Thanks for responding. --   Lost Soul   talk  contribs  10:49, 18 January 2007 (PST)

Scifi.com

There seems to be a lot of confusion about the spoiler policy for Lostpedia. Is Scifi.com an official source for Lostpedia? Yesterday, I went ahead and added a header to the top of Talk:Not in Portland, but now I'm afraid that template is conflicting with what is shown on the article page for Not in Portland. I'm not sure where to draw the line. Will we only accept "spoiler" information from actors if they are taken from Scifi.com? What about if a blogger claims to have interviewed an actor and gotten some spoiler info; would that be accepted on this site? --Dagg 10:41, 18 January 2007 (PST)

I'd like the policy to be looser as well. I can only guess that the reason the rule is so strict is because people couldn't agree on the rules of a looser policy. I just wanted to make clear that I didn't make that template to try and set a new policy, I only made it to highlight what I've seen repeated again and again by other sysops.--Dagg 11:06, 18 January 2007 (PST)

Season 3 - NIP

Hi, well basically as ABC medianet is the only official source for lostpedia, id like to ask you (as a sysop), why no sysop is adding Not In Portland to the Season 3 page (despite frequent requests on the talk page.) Ta --lewisg 11:03, 18 January 2007 (PST)

Re: Season 3 pics

Done. Thanks! Obi-Dan Kenobi 16:48, 18 January 2007 (PST)

Thanks for the Hard Work Medal

• Thanks for the hard work medal, its really appreciated.--Mr.Leaf 18:03, 18 January 2007 (PST)

Redirects

I have a question and seeing how you're a zen master at wikis, I need to know how to redirect pages. I don't have any pages in mind, but it bugs me sometimes when I search for something and nothing comes up. Any help is appreciated. --Mr. Crabby (Talk) 15:06, 19 January 2007 (PST)

Dude, thanks --Mr. Crabby (Talk) 15:58, 19 January 2007 (PST)

Dan Tallias/Attias

• I was just looking at the Danny disambig page and Numbers transcript, and noticed that we have a Daniel Attias as director, but the Numbers transcript lists "Dan Tallias". I thought this was a typo, and indeed only Attias is listed in IMDB. However when I do a Google search for "Dan Tallias" I get a ton of hits, many from Lost fan sites. What's going on? Tallias is not listed as an alias in IMDB. Was there an ABC press release with a typo that got spread throughout the lost blogosphere? Your thoughts? -- ^C¯ _Santa_ ¯^T 16:45, 19 January 2007 (PST)

The Numbers

• Hi, could I request that the Numbers is unlocked please, as crossrefs need to be done on it. Thanks a lot. Namaste, --   Lost Soul   talk  contribs  03:33, 20 January 2007 (PST)

• All done. Thanks a lot. :-) --   Lost Soul   talk  contribs  03:43, 20 January 2007 (PST)

Thanks

Thanks for removing the cats, didn't even think of it when I created the page, I was in a hurry to get it up to stop the edit wars that were going on. --Mr.Leaf 13:59, 20 January 2007 (PST)

Psst...

• Saw you posted in LostxAngel's talk. It wasn't actually her who added the Walt thing... she added something from "Pilot, Part 2". Just thought you'd want to know to save confusion. :) --   Lost Soul   talk  contribs  07:57, 21 January 2007 (PST)

• Oh yeah I definitely know what you mean. It's a tough one, because you're right in both respects. I say just leave it for now; in a day or so, you might change your mind and if so, add it back in. :) --   Lost Soul   talk  contribs  08:03, 21 January 2007 (PST)

Question about Talk Pages

• Hey there, I was just wondering what you would recommend is the guideline length for talk pages? When do you archive yours (after how many messages)? I understand this is a strange question, but hey... I'm strange. --   Lost Soul   talk  contribs  09:00, 21 January 2007 (PST)

RE:Talk Pages

• Woo first to post in new page! Anywho... I think the reason you've been so chatty is because I keep bugging you every five minutes ;) --   Lost Soul   talk  contribs  09:10, 21 January 2007 (PST)

Capt Thing

• I know, I mean, one of the worst things is that I apologised and received no reply. That's just not on, IMO. *sigh* But hey, there's nothing I can do about it... I just wish he was more gracious. I mean, I wouldn't mind if he didn't do it in the way he does it... --