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Cabin Fever Transcript
No problem, and it's no bother, had nothing else to do. Just finished editing all the grammar/punctuation. :D --Jamielost 15:58, 9 May 2008 (PDT)
Transcript
Sorry Rob. I try to remember to take my spell checker off Aussie before I spell check here, but sometimes I forget. I'll change it back. Do you think "(Ben smiles. In his hands, behind his back, he clutches the closed baton we saw him use on the Bedouins in Tunisia. His hand inches toward the release button.)" should instead say he slipped it out of his coat sleeve? I didn't think he was moving his hand just toward the release button, but instead pulling it from a hidden place in the sleeve. -- LOSTonthisdarnisland 07:51, 1 May 2008 (PDT)
- I added [1] (Incredulous), not removed it, noticing you were adding feeling behind the transcript, something I thought was a great idea. -- LOSTonthisdarnisland 07:56, 1 May 2008 (PDT)
- If you don't think he moved it like that, I won't add it because I'm assuming the action that isn't fully shown on camera, so nothing definite. That was just how I 'saw' it when I was watching it again today. -- LOSTonthisdarnisland 07:59, 1 May 2008 (PDT) Ah, I just looked at that bit again. Ben puts his hand inside his coat pocket just after he pays the cabbie, as he's approaching the door. When he moves his hand, it's actually moving away from the release button, sliding it out from the sleeve into his hand with a better grip on then handle (aka revealing it to the audience, lol). And funny we thought the same descriptive word, yes :) 08:04, 1 May 2008 (PDT)
- BTW, great job on the transcript(s). It's very helpful as I don't see them *cough* in a manner that has closed captions *mumbles about Aussie television*. -- LOSTonthisdarnisland 08:05, 1 May 2008 (PDT)
More Arabic help
Of course. The chant is the shahadah, or the "testifying". It is basically the Islamic creed, where one testifies that "There is no god but Allah, [and] Mohammed is Allah's messenger." The shahadah actually begins with "I testify that...", but it can also be ommitted sometimes, as in this chant.
- Here's the full Arabic text of the shahadah:
- أشهد أن لا إله إلا الله و أشهد أن محمد رسول الله
- Meaning: "I testify that there is no god but Allah, and I testify that Mohammed is Allah's messenger."
- And the text without "أشهد أن" ("I testify that") parts, as chanted in the episode:
- لا إله إلاَ الله محمد رسول الله
- Meaning: "There is no god but Allah. Mohammed is Allah's messenger."
- Be careful if you want to copy and paste, though, it's a bit tricky, and it's a religious thing so you have to make sure you've got it right. -- c blacxthornE t 09:16, 1 May 2008 (PDT)
You're very welcome. Do you think I should add the parts the Bedouin speak in Arabic that I understand? If it's okay, should I also include the scripts in Arabic an Turkish, and note that those parts were untitled?-- c blacxthornE t 11:39, 1 May 2008 (PDT)
- Yes, please (if I have a vote) :) -- LOSTonthisdarnisland 11:42, 1 May 2008 (PDT)
- Thanks for the input (both of you).
I'll useI used the "codebox". It may be a little crooked but it's still improvement I guess. By the way, about original texts: You may want to look at the Ji Yeon transcript to see how we handled it there; I think it was quite nice and non-confusing (is that a word?). But with the boxes here, I don't know where we would put the original texts in this transcript.-- c blacxthornE t 15:01, 1 May 2008 (PDT)
- Thanks for the input (both of you).
- Could the English text be written in as regular text, because they are actual speaking parts, and then the Arabic could be written like the Korean in Ji Yeon? -- LOSTonthisdarnisland 03:43, 2 May 2008 (PDT)
- Yes, please (if I have a vote) :) -- LOSTonthisdarnisland 11:42, 1 May 2008 (PDT)
AOTW
Hey Robert. Thanks for organizing the featured AOTW. You're doing a great job. --CTS 16:13, 1 May 2008 (PDT)
Wikipedia Images
Hello. Is there a way that I could copy an image from Wikipedia and paste it here on Lostpedia? If you know how to, please explain so on my talk page. Thanks. --CTS 16:45, 2 May 2008 (PDT)
- I wanted to put the season promo images from wikipedia onto Lostpedia. If you click on the links below, you'll see the promo posters for each season. None of these are on the Lostpedia season pages, so I was going to somehow upload them to LP.
Lost Season 1
Lost Season 2
Lost Season 3
--CTS 17:45, 2 May 2008 (PDT)
Restricted Areas
Hey, I've got a question for you. Since after Thursday's episode, when we know who's flash-(forward/backward) it was (Jack's), I've been wondering why no one has edited the Season 4 navigation bar. Furthermore, no one has edited the Season 4 page since The Shape of Things to Come (including the ABC-released name of the next episode, Cabin Fever). I was going to do both of these, but I can find how to edit the nav, and the Season 4 page appears to not let anyone edit it, unless (I assume) they have certain privileges.
My question isn't why haven't they been updated, but instead how does one get permission to edit that sort of thing? Is it only admins and / or sysops? --Michaelisinthecoffin 22:04, 3 May 2008 (PDT)
- Great, thanks so much! I wanted to edit the Season 4 page and the season 4 nav (which I'm not even sure where / how to access). --Michaelisinthecoffin 12:15, 4 May 2008 (PDT)
- Someone beat me to the punch and made the updates already. Thanks anyway for the quick response! Enjoy the rest of your weekend. --Michaelisinthecoffin 12:19, 4 May 2008 (PDT)
Some Requests
Robert
Can you update the New Zealand template on the main page please to "The Shape of Things to Come" Airs Wednesday at 8.30pm on TV2.--Kivipat 11:15, 4 May 2008 (PDT)
Also, the Nav-Jack box needs to have Erica Stevens changed to Erika Stevenson, and you may want to consider deleting the Mr. Hollister article, see discussion on it- thanx
Charladay
Thanks for AotWing it! The IRCers who contributed to it are very happy with your choice. danhm 20:40, 4 May 2008 (PDT)
- Hear hear! <3 Froglars 20:42, 4 May 2008 (PDT)
Military vs. Paramilitary
Robert, not to beat a dead horse here, but I would like to restate my position on my reversed edit. My note in the discussion page was removed that explained my logic for doing so. The term military denotes a soldiers affiliation with a country and government. Keamy, and probably most of his team, was at one point in a military, but no longer and thus are civilians. I believe the term paramilitary is the best description of their team. Definitions of paramilitary I found online were: a group of civilians organized in a military fashion; of or relating to a group of civilians organized to function like a military unit; a group of civilians trained and organized in a military fashion. The issue at hand is not their training, it's their status as civilians. if you wanted to be even more accurate, Keamy's team would be a Private Military Company (PMC), a.k.a. a security contractor. But of course that is just a fancy term for a mercenary. But all of these terms fall under the banner of paramilitarism.Kevrock 09:00, 6 May 2008 (PDT)
- The key to the difference between military service and mercenary or paramilitary work is performing the service in the support of a country, its government, and its people. Mercenaries and paramilitary forces typically have different or opposing incentives, most notably financial ones.
- Here are several definitions of the term military that specifically refer to government service:
- From Princeton.edu: N. the military forces of a nation, Adj. associated with or performed by members of the armed services as contrasted with civilians [2]
- "A civilian under international humanitarian law is a person who is not a member of his or her country's armed forces."
- Wikipedia: Military has two broad meanings. In its first sense, it refers to soldiers who represent their country and constitution. In its second sense, it refers to armed forces as a whole.[3]
- Armed forces are defined as: The armed forces of a state are its government-sponsored defense, fighting forces, and organizations. They exist to further the foreign and domestic policies of their governing body, and to defend that body and the nation it represents from external and internal aggressors.[4]
- From Princeton.edu: N. the military forces of a nation, Adj. associated with or performed by members of the armed services as contrasted with civilians [2]
- Definitions of paramilitary are listed in the first comment above.
- Para-, in English, is an affix of Greek and Latin origin meaning beside, near, past, beyond or contrary.
- If you wanted to keep the function + team naming convention, as in science team, in lieu of the term military team, I would suggest using security team.
- If you are highly opposed to the term paramilitary, then mercenary is the best term in the case of Keamy's team.Kevrock 22:35, 6 May 2008 (PDT)
- Here are several definitions of the term military that specifically refer to government service:
Vandalism
Hi. There is a new user that is involved with a number of vandalism acts. Has just a couple of edits in total, so if you could check the contributions I'm sure you can see and take care of the problem. Thanks.-- c blacxthornE t 12:28, 6 May 2008 (PDT)
I'm really reluctant about reverting edits to talk pages, but this user seems to insist on adding irrelevant (1) discussions on top (2) of the pages without signing them (3). I tried to correct a couple of them (without deleting, just moving the sections to the end and signing them) and ask him to do it right. It's not like he's a newbie or anything, but he doesn't seem to take me (or maybe the wiki) seriously, according to the replies on my talk page. Anyway I thought maybe a SysOp's warning could help.-- c blacxthornE t 14:42, 9 May 2008 (PDT) P.S. Can we undo edits like this?
Hi. There's a user, Lockedidntbuildanisland, whose "contributions" leave much to be desired: profanity, vulgarity, insults and uppercase "shouting" are examples. I think most of this work has now been undone by others. We don't need this guy's help, ever. Thanks.--Jim in Georgia Talk Contribs 10:18, 18 June 2008 (PDT)
Hi, again. You and I have both undergone a personal attack by Lockedidntbuildanisland on his talk page--Jim in Georgia Talk Contribs 07:26, 20 June 2008 (PDT)
SysOp Opinion
Hey Robert, could I get your opinion on this? Thanks! --michael_is_in_the_coffin 07:07, 8 May 2008 (PDT)
- Thanks again! --michael_is_in_the_coffin 09:08, 8 May 2008 (PDT)
- My pleasure! --michael_is_in_the_coffin 09:40, 8 May 2008 (PDT)
- Hey, maybe I should just keep a section here for all the questions I bug you with! Anyway, is there a section on Lostpedia where a list is kept of any articles that have been deleted, and why (an archive of the discussion that went along with it)? I just noticed that the course-correcting article disappeared and I wanted to find out why. Please let me know when you get the chance. Thanks! --michael_is_in_the_coffin 07:30, 16 May 2008 (PDT)
Thanks for the link. Yes, I can view the log, and it actually appears that it was you who deleted the article. The only discussion I could find was the listing of the article being deleted and your comment below that. Once an article is deleted, is all discussion surrounding its deletion removed as well? --michael_is_in_the_coffin 08:40, 16 May 2008 (PDT)
- Wow, you're right... I could have sworn it was semi-intelligible at one point. Hrm. Would you be against it if I redid the article, but kept it more intelligible and relevant? I think "course-correction" is an important item to the show, as explicitly stated by Ms. Hawking and Desmond. --michael_is_in_the_coffin 09:01, 16 May 2008 (PDT)
GOSH
I think I got that fixed up. Just missing some commas. Best of luck, -- Dagg talk contribs4 8 11:26, 8 May 2008 (PDT)
- Looks like there is an issue with another javascript page on Lostpedia, and it prevented the GOSH javascript from running. It looks like an error was introduced to http://en.lostpedia.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js sometime in February (hasClass function is missing), but I'm not sure why this is finally manifesting now. I've worked around it. You probably just need to do a shift-reload to get the workaround. -- Dagg talk contribs4 8 15:56, 22 May 2008 (PDT)
Vandal
Hi Robert. Can you keep an eye on Special:Contributions/AC Power Cord please. The two most recent edits are vandalism, but everything else appears to be OK (although I haven't checked the spoiler page edits). Cheers.--TechNic|talk|conts 23:46, 8 May 2008 (PDT)
Hi Robert --
Not to be a pest, but someone is changing US spelling to UK. I'm not certain that qualifies as valdcalism, but definitely is a pain in the....
Hope my signature is better!
--Jim in Georgia Talk Contribs 18:49, 16 May 2008 (PDT)
Discussion about Recent Ban
Hey Robert,
What is the best way to discuss my most recent banning? Via this talk?? I apologize if this is the wrong way, because I have no idea how else to contact you.
I think it was an unnecessary ban caused by a misunderstanding. I even emailed the main admin about the situation and did not even receive a reply.
I apologize if you or the admins felt I was "Spamming" the site, but if you looked at EACH one of my posts they were linked to very informative information for LOST fans.
I think each of the links were to screencaps or some sort of mystery that fans on episode come online to try and figure out. Not sure how much research you did to see what I post and where outside of this site, but you will see I am not "spamming". Yes, I link fans to my page, but the information is always relevant to the subject being discussed. Plus, I usually do this if I can not post a screencap (or several) or a video or if there is too much information.
As far as the Hieroglyphics post is concerned, I along with several of my readers and DarkUFO readers spent quite of bit of time trying to decipher the door and as far as I know we were the first ones to figure out what kind of symbols they were. Of course, the next day once DocArzt seemed to have a better formalized solution I added it to the rest of my post on my blog AND I credited his site as the source.
So:
1) If you felt I was stealing info I was not. I credited DA site properly.
2) I was linking to my blog, because that was the ONLY place on any of the major LOST sites that I had seen where you could as a fan see the COMPLETE breakdown from episode night and on of how the symbols were cracked or solved.
3) All I have ever done with my site/blog/postings on any fansite is always be informative and promote the show.
4) I am a mod of a MySpace LOST Forum, admin for DarkUFO and SpoilerTV and post on several other sites and I know what is spam and not.
5) If you feel that your readers do NOT want to link to another site or should not have to link to another site, I can understand on some level, but what is the best way for me to post such information to your readers as well? LOST fans just want information and want it immediately.
6) Plus, in the past I have seen many other fansites and blogs linked back to in the same way so I thought it was ok to do the same as long as it was LOST related information??
I hope you get a chance to read this and thanks for your time.
Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
Thanks
ODI
http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/User_talk:The_ODI
Orphans
Could I draw your attention to Special:Lonelypages please? Many of them are speedy deletes, and others are mysteriously locked pages. Cheers--TechNic|talk|conts 08:44, 9 May 2008 (PDT)
Confusion about past/present tense
Hi. I've read the manual of style bits on the past-present tense a few times, and I think I understand it all. But to my understanding, according to the MoS, all events described in character bio articles should be in past tense. Yet, a lot of paragraphs in these articles seem not to be, regardless of their placing in the timeline events (although season 4 bits seem to be often in present tense). I completely appreciate that it's just something that hasn't been edited yet, but I wanted to be sure my understanding was really the right one - especially because I might go and edit things to past tense myself, if that's how it's supposed to be. Can you clarify? Many thanks. Alpert 09:46, 9 May 2008 (PDT)
Main Page needs fixing
Robert
Could you please correct the New Zealand template on the main page to "Something Nice Back Home" Airs Wednesday at 8.30pm on TV2. (It airs May 14)--Kivipat 13:26, 10 May 2008 (PDT)
- Thanks for that Rob. If updating these templates does open up to some or all users I'll certainly do the New Zealand one.--Kivipat 11:29, 11 May 2008 (PDT)
unsigned remarks
hey Robert! sorry..I'm new here..I'll sign my remarks from now on :) cheers --Tom 14:27, 10 May 2008 (PDT)
Vandal
Letting you know that User:Pulpkb vandalized the Keamy page. --CTS 21:31, 10 May 2008 (PDT)
Re: Three actors
Well, only two portrayed Ben unless you count Infant Ben. So then that's three. But I didn't count Infant Locke, so it's sort of four. --Blueeagleislander 22:27, 10 May 2008 (PDT)
Vandal
Please ban User:Archebaltwitwicky for vandalising the Walt page very inappropriately. He has vandalized the Walt page a lot. --CTS 17:34, 11 May 2008 (PDT)
Portal Changes
I was reading on one of the portal talk pages, and Plkrtn said to alert an admin when a change was needed instead of whining about it. So, since you're online, here I am. Portal:Freighter should have the following changes: Gault and Ray need to be listed as deceased. Mayhew needs to be added, and deceased. Thanks. Let me know if I did the wrong thing. -- Sam T C 18:08, 11 May 2008 (PDT)
Oh sorry
Oh ok, thanks for telling me, This is my first wiki can you tell? lol --Stego21 20:42, 12 May 2008 (PDT)
Ok, thanks :). By the way do you know how to make picture boxes? --Stego21 20:54, 12 May 2008 (PDT)
Ok, Thanks again :).--Stego21 20:57, 12 May 2008 (PDT)
WOW!!Thank you so much for even noticing my posts! I have used my signature in the past, but someone changes the wording and adds their signature. I really don't mind, I just figured it is because I don't do much posting here. So I actually feel honored to even be notices. Will do on the sig from now on!! --Kansasgal71 12:46, 29 June 2008 (PDT)
Couple of issues
A couple of issues :-) Note: I posted this to both RobertKS and Plktrn as the only two seemingly active sysops at the moment.
- Seems like there is a lot of back and forth editing going on with regards to the STATUS of characters which seems to be due to the inadequate policy description on the template page. I raised some questions about the policy on the talk page, maybe you'd care to weigh in on the issue on the talk page? Template_talk:Infobox_Island_Character#Status
- There had been some issues with the categories and banners for Canonicity, but blackxthornE wrote up a really great proposal for streamlining the categories and correlating them correct and enhanced banners. Right now there's a consensus, however only three or so users have weighed in and no sysops. Black would love to get a go ahead from a sysop before he implements the changes. Lostpedia_talk:Canon#Discussion_-_Changes_in_canon_categories.2C_templates_and_LP:CANON
- A while ago there were some issues with image reuploads going beyond the usual delay into never appearing at all. Supposedly the problem had been fixed, but the problem is happening again. This is forcing users to upload changes to images under a new file name, which is creating orphaned images that only sysops can delete. Can you look into this? I realize it may require one of the sysops who knows about the more technical aspects of the wiki but I don't know who exactly that might be.
- The tense policy for episodes is *still* contradicted on different policy pages, present on Lostpedia:Episode_Manual_of_Style#Tense and past on Lostpedia:Manual_of_Style#Present_versus_past_tense. I suspect that a consensus was reached in the debate on the EMOS page for it to be present tense and no one realized it hadn't been changed on MOS. It has caused some problems with edits and reverts each citing the policy page the editor happened to consult.
- Lostpedia:Episode_Manual_of_Style is currently orphaned. I suggest a link to it from both the MOS page and the help infobox.
- Robert's proposal for an UQ might merit turning into a real policy page. User_talk:Robert_K_S/UQ_sections
- I made a counter proposal for changing the UQ sections into a Mysteries section. Might you weigh in on the idea and also let me know if there's a more appropriate talk page for the proposal? User_talk:Robert_K_S/UQ_sections
Phew! Thanks for any help you can provide on these issues. --Jackdavinci
- I want to add that I've been wanting to propose your UQ Sections guidelines as being official policy and maybe somewhat expanding from there. However, now I see that Jackdavinci's new proposal seems more appropriate for a couple of reasons. I'm going to comment on it on the appropriate talk page. Side note about the images: I know that there are a lot of orphan images, and I mean hundreds, that just stand in the way of browsing through image categories. I wanted to contribute to the search part of a self-initiated search-and-destroy mission, but I saw that I'd just been adding deletion templates and nothing happened. I check the delete category and see that there are almost 200 images waiting to be deleted, which means I probably nominated 150 or something. So I decided to stop looking for more images that should be deleted, because more images to delete were just going to discourage SysOps from even starting to get to it.-- c blacxthornE t 09:26, 13 May 2008 (PDT)
Spam
User:Pramod looks to be a spammer. Their only contribution is their User page, and it is an advertisement. >: BLEF █ 08:49, 14 May 2008 (PDT)
Vandal
User:Haxlol vandalized Cabin Fever with this edit.-- c blacxthornE t 12:55, 14 May 2008 (PDT)
Lost: Via Domus Episodes
Hello Robert-
The episode pages for the seven episodes of Via Domus are entitled Lost: Via Domus/Game Guide/Episode 1, etc. I think the seven episode pages should be renamed to Force Majeure, A New Day, etc. since those are the actual titles of the episodes. Rather than put rename banners on all the pages, I thought I would ask you. Do you agree? --CTS 16:41, 14 May 2008 (PDT)
Character Secrets
Hi Robert. I hope you don't think these are stupid questions, but I wanted to purge the content on the Character Secrets article to add new sectionboxes and new content as I think the organization can be more fluid and I don't think some of the secrets are really secrets, per se. Here are my questions:
- Can I be allowed to re-edit the whole page?
- I don't think I can do everything all in one sitting, so can I do Seasons 1 and 2, then come back and finish the rest? Or should I just save all of my changes once I get all the info in there?
- I left a sample on the discussion page of where I'd like to go, and the main headings will be by seasons, then subsection by character. What do you think? :)
I'm done rewriting the article on Relationships, so I thought I'd add another little project just to do something and learn more about wiki-ing...I appreciate your comments. Thanks, Robert. :)--Easter 17:51, 14 May 2008 (PDT)
- Thanks, Robert. I'll go ahead and do that. :)--Easter 20:01, 14 May 2008 (PDT)
Why the Numbers must be input manually
The exec producers basically said that the numbers must be input by a person instead of a machine. This is so the automated computer would have no way of becoming like HAL in 2001, or Skynet in the Terminator. Apparently DHARMA couldn't risk having a computer that could go out of control be the one that decides whether the button should be pushed. Nick2010 13:08, 15 May 2008 (PDT) Also, here's a link to the quotes: http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Access:_Granted#Pushing_the_button Nick2010 13:11, 15 May 2008 (PDT)
Mercenary Count
Hi Robert - I posted, or thought I posted, a question about the location of a missing mercenary. Did you remove it or did I never actually save it?--Jim 08:49, 16 May 2008 (PDT)
Hi Robert - Point taken. My question was poorly phrased. It should have been more like, "Where is number five and is he going to jump out of the bushes when we least expect him to?"<whew> Since asking you about the question, I've reworked it and posted it as a theory.
Thanks,
--Jim 12:44, 16 May 2008 (PDT)
Freighter portal...again.
Since you seem to be the go-to admin for portal fixing, I'm back. Could you add a link for Hendricks to the page? I'll get an Image:Portal-Hendricks set up in a little while. Thanks! -- Sam T C 12:23, 16 May 2008 (PDT)
sorry . . . but . . . "now" . . . . are my initials . . . so i use them . . . .
and will continue to not be ashamed to . . . . —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nowism (talk • contribs) 2008-05-16T16:32:28.
There's_No_Place_Like_Home,_Parts_2_&_3/Theories
Hi Robert, could you look at this theory page? I didn't want to blank the part one article text off it, but you might want to and lock it down. Thanks ---- LOSTonthisdarnisland 23:05, 17 May 2008 (PDT)
- Thanks :) ---- LOSTonthisdarnisland 03:25, 19 May 2008 (PDT)
Another Vandal
User:Fanny Mayhem. --CTS 14:19, 19 May 2008 (PDT)
- Yeah. I've cleaned up most of the damage, except for in the recent changes. -- Sam T C 14:20, 19 May 2008 (PDT)
Advertisement
Um...User:Pramod has done nothing but post an airline advertisement on their userpage. -- Sam T C 20:16, 19 May 2008 (PDT)
- Yes, except that's his only contribution (and I'm guessing his last) to Lostpedia. I doubt his intentions have anything to do with Lost or this wiki, only for his advertisements. He shouldn't have an account for that sole purpose. --CTS 20:39, 20 May 2008 (PDT)
- I think that's what Sam was pointing out, CTS. As I told the last user who brought this issue to my attention, I'm disinclined to ban on that grounds alone, though I certainly wouldn't oppose another admin deeming it sufficient reason for banning. Robert K S (talk) 20:42, 20 May 2008 (PDT)
- I think that should be stated somewhere under LP's legal policy. Otherwise, it isn't too big of a deal. It should, however, be addressed. --CTS 20:44, 20 May 2008 (PDT)
- You think what should be stated? "No advertising on your user page?" We all do a little of that--it's what user pages are for. "No advertising on your user page if it's your sole contribution?" Then all a spammer would have to do is make a few constructive edits. It's hard to find a middle ground, but that's why admins are here to judge egregious misuses of the encyclopedia. I'm not sure this counts as that yet, but if it becomes a bigger problem--lots of user accounts for no reason other than to post ads--then the policy will indeed need clarification. Robert K S (talk) 20:49, 20 May 2008 (PDT)
- I think that should be stated somewhere under LP's legal policy. Otherwise, it isn't too big of a deal. It should, however, be addressed. --CTS 20:44, 20 May 2008 (PDT)
- I think that's what Sam was pointing out, CTS. As I told the last user who brought this issue to my attention, I'm disinclined to ban on that grounds alone, though I certainly wouldn't oppose another admin deeming it sufficient reason for banning. Robert K S (talk) 20:42, 20 May 2008 (PDT)
Unanswered question
I don't know how to edit your talk page but listen to what I have to say: I was very disappointed that you decided to take it upon yourself to change my addition to unanswered questions. I think that Locke and Ben being both premature is a relevant fact that was only reveled in the Cabin Fever episode. The last time I edited something on here, I said that Richard Alpert was not aging. Then one of you moderators decided to cut out my edit because they thought it was wrong. Guess what? It turned out to be correct. I think that you should go ahead and put my comments back. Who made you the authority to say what is an unanswered question and what isn't. Because you participate more? So if you participate more, then that means you like the show more? Bull crap. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Illathruz (talk • contribs) 2008-05-21T18:49:59.
- Actually no, the fact that Richard Alpert is ageless has not been proven. In fact I believe it more likely that he can just travel in time like the island itself. PeterR 13:03, 27 May 2008 (PDT)
Episode tense policy
Thanks for the heads up on that policy. I am confused, though, as the Lostpedia:Job_List page states (before I added clarification): "Change present to past tenses, when describing events that have happenED in the show. To describe a character, you can say "Jack is a doctor" but say "Jack tried to save Boone". This is especially prevalent on Character pages and Episode pages, but even in themed pages as well." The Lostpedia:Job_List page was my reference when I was looking for my next assignment. I'll happily stick to whatever the correct policy is, there just seems to be some internal disconnect. Kevrock 15:17, 22 May 2008 (PDT)
"Arzt & Crafts"
Hi Robert. I noticed in the Missing Pieces template it has "Arzt & Crafts" as being various-centric. I think this mobisode is clearly Arzt-centric. His name is in the title and he has the most lines out of the characters. The plot is also centered around him. Do you agree that the template should say Arzt-centric? --CTS 19:17, 22 May 2008 (PDT)
- Yeah, except the whole theme of "Arzt & Crafts" (moving to the caves) is centered around Arzt. Arzt also has the most things to say and the whole of the mobisode is centered around him. "So It Begins" is Vincent-centric and "Jin Has a Temper-Tantrum on the Golf Course" is Jin-centric because the whole of the mobisode revolves around them, even though there are other characters who play a role. --CTS 20:18, 22 May 2008 (PDT)
- Even though Arzt is a non-central character, it is still Arzt-centric. Rose and Bernard are non-central characters, but in S2 they had a centric episode. Nikki and Paulo were non-central characters, but they had their own episode. Vincent is another example with "So It Begins". I think "Arzt & Crafts" should be Arzt-centric even though he's not a central character on the show. --CTS 13:29, 23 May 2008 (PDT)
delete
Can you take a look at Talk:Worst_episode_of_lost? Thanks --Gluphokquen Gunih ▲ 08:30, 23 May 2008 (PDT)
- Here's another weird one: Jack Bender/Theories. I can't recall seeing theories for other real people, and since the info has been disproven, can this page be deleted? --Gluphokquen Gunih ▲ 17:24, 23 May 2008 (PDT)
Season_4_Episode_10
Rob, please take a look at this page Season_4_Episode_10 that shows up on the orphaned page list. For some reason, it's locked so I can't edit it into a redirect page. Kevrock 07:00, 24 May 2008 (PDT)
Rename
Hi, could you sort this rename please: Stlgirl/Choices. Thanks--TechNic|talk|conts 09:49, 26 May 2008 (PDT)
Delete
Hey there. Could you please take a look at this page? Wayzata. Cheers!--Baker1000 05:12, 27 May 2008 (PDT)
NPA violations
- Hi Robert. I know you've just warned 01lander about LP:NPA. But he's been a member of this site for quite some time now, so please check these discussions: edits in my talk in response to this, responses in Charlotte's talk to my attempt of help (which was after his initial personal attack), and another edit in my talk. You might want to wait for his response to your warning, but I just wanted to make sure you know that whatever you were warning him about, wasn't a first offence.-- c blacxthornE t 14:00, 28 May 2008 (PDT)
- I'd like to second that. I haven't been the victim of this user's attacks, but have seen them several times. For utterly unjustified reasons they seem to have taken a dislike to Blacxthorne and has repeatedly exhibited an aggressive attitude and offence language. Blacxthorne has been extremely patient and non-confrontational but this behaviour warrants more than a mild warning.--TechNic|talk|conts 14:24, 28 May 2008 (PDT)
Nooooo!!!
I guess I lose! And I was so sure of it. Oh well, we can't always be right. There's no way to change a username, correct???... didn't think so. At least I can change my signature! --michael_is_NOT_in_the_coffin 21:09, 29 May 2008 (PDT)
Runway
Do you think you could rename Quarry to Runway? The vote has been unanimous for a while now. Also, as I discussed with you above, were you planning on changing "Arzt & Crafts" to Arzt centric? --CTS 14:42, 31 May 2008 (PDT)
- Thanks! --CTS 17:25, 31 May 2008 (PDT)
Speedy Delete
Check out Theories:There%27s_No_Place_Like_Home%2C_Parts_2_%26_3/Theoriesr - not only is the article title typo'd, but it is also structured incorrectly. Kevrock 11:04, 1 June 2008 (PDT)
Unlock redirects?
What's up with the articles Season 4 Episode 11, Season 4 Episode 12, and Season 4 Episode 13? They look like broken redirects but they're locked so they can't be corrected. Kevrock 11:12, 1 June 2008 (PDT)
Emily Anne Locke vs Emily Locke
Since you seem to be on top of these requests this afternoon, here's another one: Emily_Annabeth_Locke/Theories needs to me merged with Emily_Locke/Theories, as Emily_Annabeth_Locke redirects to Emily_Locke. Kevrock 11:18, 1 June 2008 (PDT)
Frozen Donkey Wheel/Theories vs Frozen Wheel/Theories
Another one - Frozen_Donkey_Wheel/Theories needs to me merged with Frozen_wheel/Theories. Kevrock 11:54, 1 June 2008 (PDT)
- No, it doesn't. Robert K S (talk) 11:55, 1 June 2008 (PDT)
Frozen Donkey Wheel and Frozen donkey wheel redirect to two different pages!--TechNic|talk|conts 16:54, 1 June 2008 (PDT)
Spam Alert
User:Galois has spammed Talk:Main Page -- Connor401 talk contribs email 12:04, 1 June 2008 (PDT)
reappearing page
Hi Robert. Another version of Moving the island which you deleted earlier today has just popped up.--TechNic|talk|conts 15:28, 1 June 2008 (PDT)
"Talk talk" namespace
Hi Robert, just a quick note on Talk talk: Season 5/spoilers, you are right that this page is in a rather bizarre namespace, but the reason is that the main namespace article Talk:Season 5/spoilers is protected and so discussions on why the page is protected cannot continue there. Technically, the literal template link is [[{{NAMESPACE}} talk:{{PAGENAME}}|talk page]] and so the "Talk talk" link was automatically generated from the transcluded Template:Protected into Talk:Season 5/spoilers, and this is where the namespace arises from. However, a discussion is now taking place on Spoiler policy anyway. Kidburla 10:43, 2 June 2008 (PDT)
Dilapidated
A user suggested to change the spelling of dilapidated on the featured "Jacob" article on the main page. Could you do this please? Thanks. --CTS 17:41, 2 June 2008 (PDT)
A few things
Hi there. I was just wondering if you could delete this redirect I made. I spelt his name wrong. Also if you could rename (or make a decision on) Orchid Orientation film outtakes. I'd also like to point your attention to this user who keeps changing the picture on Shannon's article without reason, despite being told it was too big [5].--Baker1000 04:47, 3 June 2008 (PDT)
Mysterious Island References on TNPLH Part 2 & 3
The references to Jules Verne, Mysterious Island are direct references. The distinct electrical projectile in Verne's novel is used very similarly in this episode. Please revise the deletion. Pepito 15:35, 3 June 2008 (PDT)
List of (O)thers
Do you think you could capitalize the 'O' on the List of others page? Thanks. --CTS 17:14, 3 June 2008 (PDT)
Rename
There's a healthy rename debate going on at Talk:Timeline:Post-Island, there's no real concensus yet, but I think it'd be good to get a few SysOps to weigh in. --Gluphokquen Gunih ▲ 20:30, 3 June 2008 (PDT)
Articles for Rename
There are several articles that have been marked for a rename for some time, with a majority of people agreeing to them. These are:
Could these be renamed, please? It'd help clean up the wiki. Thanks.
P.S. Could you help with the discussion on Talk:Young man? There's been some debate on whether or not to rename, and your opinion would be greatly appreciated. -- Sam T C 20:52, 3 June 2008 (PDT)
Murderers
I was using murderer in the sense that this character killed another character on the show. However, I think you're right with that. Sorry. -- Sam T C 08:05, 4 June 2008 (PDT)
Island in a Future World (theory)
Would you be so kind as to add Island_in_a_Future_World_(theory) to the protected Template:Nav-Theories. Also, would you please remove Island_in_a_Future_World_(theory)/Theories that I accidentally created while trying to de-orphan the parent article? Thanks! Kevrock 10:14, 4 June 2008 (PDT)
Template Creation
Hey, I was thinking of creating a template but I don't know how. It would be a 'list' template and would have links to the folliwng pages:
The list of freighter crew and DHARMA members hasn't been created yet. Is there a way you could create a new template for this? --CTS 12:48, 4 June 2008 (PDT)
- Thanks! --CTS 12:56, 4 June 2008 (PDT)
Page Lock
Greetings-
I may be overestimating, but it seems as if at least half of the changes to ("There's No Place Like Home, Part 1") are from people who don't like the subtitles in the flashforward section. No one seems to have any serious complains with the content of the page. May I recommend that you and the other sysops decide what you like and lock the page for a while? Leave Talk and Theories unlocked.
Thanks,
--Jim in Georgia Talk Contribs 18:04, 4 June 2008 (PDT)
I don't know how to isolate the URLs, unless this is what you mean. Here's a line from a recent update message:
http://www.lostpedia.com/index.php?title=There%27s_No_Place_Like_Home%2C_Part_1&diff=0&oldid=444874
Will that help? No complaints about the individual posters, BTW. This just seems to be one of those things about which people are very passionate,GRIN>!
--Jim in Georgia Talk Contribs 18:18, 4 June 2008 (PDT)
Hoffs-Drawlar Funeral Parlor
Whoops. My bad then ... should I undo my edits and restore the double redirects ? (I'm only asking because you didn't do it yourself, so I'm slightly confused about what would be the best thing to do here) --LeoChris 17:28, 7 June 2008 (PDT)
RE: Italics to quotations
Okay...I guess italics are redundant over quotation marks. --CTS 09:00, 8 June 2008 (PDT)
Alerting you to
this guy. He spammed here and here. Dunno whether he should be banned or not. --Blueeagleislander 02:49, 9 June 2008 (PDT)
"Bases"
Huh. I always thought "basis" was its own plural. I guess you learn something every day. My bad. Jimbo the Tubby talk contributions 21:22, 9 June 2008 (PDT)
Re: Freezing
I think it's a plausible explanation. If we're already suspending disbelief to accept the whole concept of the bomb (which, as you say, is implausible), then the freezeing shouldn't be a blooper anyways. Besides, if the battery powered the entire bomb instead of just the receiver, then freezing it would still stop the light from turning on, wouldn't it? As another possible explanation: the booby traps on the bomb aren't powered... say for example you set it up so that removing one of the wires strikes a flint which ignites the explosion. This is less plausible (since, how would you disarm the bomb yourself?) but the point is that there are explanations for this "blooper", imo. Jimbo the Tubby talk contributions 11:43, 10 June 2008 (PDT)
Okay... Well then that's more a blooper about the impossibility of the construction of the bomb. I was specifically removing a blooper about why they couldn't disconnect the bomb when it was frozen. I don't know how much you know about logic (in the mathematical sense) but if you have something impossible, you can deduce anything from it. Thus, if the bomb is impossible to build, then if we have such a bomb then it makes sense that you couldn't disconnect the bomb when it was frozen, because the whole thing is impossible in the first place. I wouldn't object to bloopers about the bomb's being impossible, though. Jimbo the Tubby talk contributions 11:50, 10 June 2008 (PDT)
Portal:Survivors Camp
Robert, I noticed Kate's square is green. Since she got off the Island that should be changed. Can you unprotect that? --CTS 14:28, 10 June 2008 (PDT)
- Okay, I see that you already did. Thanks! --CTS 14:29, 10 June 2008 (PDT)
Thanks for unprotecting the portals. I've been trying to get them unlocked for a while now. :) Jimbo the Tubby talk contributions 15:50, 10 June 2008 (PDT)
Casualty confusion?
What's going on with these articles?
Red-haired_Casualty/Theories has no parent article Red-haired_Casualty
Blonde_Casualty/Theories has no parent article Blonde_Casualty
Male_Casualty/Theories has no parent article Male_Casualty
Short_Hair_Casualty/Theories has no parent article Short_Hair_Casualty
Long_Hair_Casualty/Theories has no parent article Long_Hair_Casualty
And we have two broken casualty redirects: Blond Casualty and Blonde casualty
Thanks! Kevrock 09:07, 11 June 2008 (PDT)
- Nah, I don't want them back. I just though it was odd that theory pages existed w/out parent articles, but now I understand. Kevrock 11:32, 11 June 2008 (PDT)
Some more bad articles
Radiation and Radiation/Theories misnamed, fanon, stub, orphan, and has 6 votes for deletion.
Www.octagonglobalresearch.com fake website, orphaned, and looks like the Wiki forced capitalization on the first W in www.
Goodspeed should be renamed Goodspeed (disambiguation)
Thanks! Kevrock 09:07, 11 June 2008 (PDT)
Arzt (and)(&) Crafts
Is something wrong with my computer, or is something wrong with the Arzt and Crafts page? The title displays both "Arzt and Crafts" and "Arzt & Crafts". Can this be fixed? -- CTS Talk Contribs 18:28, 11 June 2008 (PDT)
minor Flight 815 template
- What do you think of the issues raised here: Template talk:Nav-SurvivorsMain. I'm ready to reorganize the template, to solve both 1) creep and redundancy with the main F815 characters template, as well as 2) storyline ambiguity issues with regard to "status" of background or unseen characters the writing team are unlikely to reference again. Thanks. -- C¯ _Santa_ ¯T 18:33, 11 June 2008 (PDT)
Benthams
Hello. If you change the Lostpedia:Latest News section under "Whoever the Case May Be" to read "Benthams", not "Bentham's". A user reported this typo on Talk:Main Page. Thanks. -- CTS Talk Contribs 12:37, 12 June 2008 (PDT)
Zodiac Raft
My apologize. I just never had this problem on Wikipedia, but I won't do that again. Malachi 00:44, 14 June 2008 (PDT)
bring back the casualties petition
After the events that happend with deleting the 5 casualty articles, me and some other users started a petition for bringing those articles back on Lostpedia. If you share our opinion on this matter, please sign the "Save The Redshirts" section on my user page. If you want you could contact other users about this or create a "Save the redshirts" section on your user page, because the goal is to get as many users to sign the petition as possible along with 6 SysOps (Admins). I would appriciate a quick respond and a sign on either my user page or User:LostCloverfield42's page. --O r h a n 9 4
- If you really want to dive into this, see various talk pages Talk:Blonde_Casualty, Template talk:Nav-SurvivorsMinor, Talk:Flight 815 background casualties, etc. Some minor points may be valid, but the overall move is to canonize fan content. For now the content has been moved to other more appropriate articles as per talk pages above. -- C¯ _Santa_ ¯T 12:52, 20 June 2008 (PDT)
Seasonvfinales?
FYI on a page - Not sure what the point of Season_finales is. I added stub & rewrite tags, as the page currently is pretty pointless. I don't know if the author intended to add more, as there is no under construction tab. The disambiguation page Finale already does this job. I guess it's worth keeping if the author was going to add some analysis or something meaningful to the page.
Kevrock talk contribs 11:07, 16 June 2008 (PDT)
Paulo_Ferreira
Don't know why, but it looks like someone copied the Paulo article in its entirety and named it Paulo_Ferreira, which is the name of a footballer.
Kevrock talk contribs 06:23, 18 June 2008 (PDT)
Merge
Robert, the majority on Talk:Unreliable_narrator#Clarification:_Merge_or_not.3F is to merge. If this is the consensus, after over a month with no further responses, could you please merge? Thanks ---- LOSTonthisdarnisland 11:34, 18 June 2008 (PDT)
- Okay. ---- LOSTonthisdarnisland 19:16, 18 June 2008 (PDT)
Improper Move
Someone cut and paste moved Keamy's device to Dead man's trigger. -- Connor401 talk contribs email 12:45, 18 June 2008 (PDT)
Interviews
Since Santa (rightfully) ruled that Interviews aren't transcripts, can you please go through the locked interviews and replace the transcript template with Nav-Interviews? And also, add a defaultsort by the actors last name? Thanks. It would help with the organization of the interviews. -- Sam T C 21:21, 18 June 2008 (PDT)
- Yeah, sure. You just had the last edit in recent changes. Sorry. -- Sam T C 21:24, 18 June 2008 (PDT)
Vandal
Just reporting that User:Lockedidntbuildanisland offended and said bad things to other users on different articles such as:Richard_Alpert/Theories(he insalted and undermined theories mad by other users), and his user page where he made few offensive statements.--O r h a n 9 4 08:28, 20 June 2008 (PDT)
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